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Post by Badwater on Jan 8, 2009 14:30:41 GMT -5
I thought that we might as well continue this conversation over here. I wanted to reiterate what I think I'm hearing in terms of suggestions on Talus 2 and see if we're on the same page. We are in agreement that: - We want the PRC hak in Talus 2.
- We want the mountain tile set hak in Talus 2.
- We want a new crafting system, and not a rework of the existing one - the rationale being that it's too much time and work to tweak what we have now.
- We can start with my areas and use my city as the start point for now, and work toward the city/race layout that we had in mind at some point in the future.
- We want to scrap Talus 1 completely.
Crafting - What should we use for a new crafting system? Player Vault - Is there any reason to be using the exisiting player vault on Talus 2? I see some potential problems if that's the case. I'm all for starting completely new; new time frame, new location in Talus, new characters. Target Date - Once we decide what we're doing I think we should try to have a solid target date for getting Talus 2 up and and when to kill Talus 1 once and for all. (Anyone feel free to chime in - I'm just getting the ball rolling again is all.  ) |
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Post by slidermike on Jan 8, 2009 17:03:50 GMT -5
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Post by slidermike on Jan 8, 2009 17:09:56 GMT -5
scrapping talus 1 completely: Hmm Guilds, storylines, arch villans etc.. Both enticing and also risky. I suppose I wouldnt stop coming if it all went new but I wouldnt exactly be jumping up and down if I lost every character Ive built over the last 4yrs either. As you might have gathered I am semi attached to my characters (a couple anyway). I for one would not want to just rebuild them on a new talus 2. If they go away there wont be another shadow tuck or zypher etc.. To me if that was the case i might as well keep the original. Thats just my feelings on that though again I can see where we dont want to make it feel like the old world right off, also how would we story arc the fact that everyone we ever played or knew all went to a totally new land *poof*  I am interested in hearing what others think and feel. |
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Post by Badwater on Jan 8, 2009 19:21:06 GMT -5
scrapping talus 1 completely: Hmm Guilds, storylines, arch villans etc.. Both enticing and also risky. I suppose I wouldnt stop coming if it all went new but I wouldnt exactly be jumping up and down if I lost every character Ive built over the last 4yrs either. As you might have gathered I am semi attached to my characters (a couple anyway). I for one would not want to just rebuild them on a new talus 2. If they go away there wont be another shadow tuck or zypher etc.. To me if that was the case i might as well keep the original. Thats just my feelings on that though again I can see where we dont want to make it feel like the old world right off, also how would we story arc the fact that everyone we ever played or knew all went to a totally new land *poof* I am interested in hearing what others think and feel. A big issue for me would be having a high powered character on a mod that is starting out with only up to level 15 or 20 mod capabilities to start. That's why I wouldn't suggest deleting the vault - when Talus 2 has the content to handle epic characters, then great. I just don't see that anytime in the beginning of Talus 2. |
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Post by Aethil on Jan 8, 2009 21:14:18 GMT -5
Well, I think that if you wanted to generate player activity, completely destroying Talus isn't the way to do it.
For one, I think that a lot of people are attached to Talus AS IS. If you want to generate activity, find a way to bring back the older players. A lot of us are lurking, looking for something, a sign, ANYTHING to want to make us log in. I might be wrong, or I might be spot on, who knows.
Wiping Talus will wipe a good portion of the fan base. I wouldn't come to Talus 2 if I didn't have Aethil. Sure, I'm only one player, but I'm certain I'm not the only player that'd be angry at losing their characters.
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Post by Inviktus on Jan 8, 2009 21:33:14 GMT -5
I think certain areas, the ones most relevant to an ongoing story related to pc's, Snow City for example, should be ported over.
I'm up for a huge revamp of Peridotia, possibly even having it sink into the sea due to Cthorna moving someplace else in the world.
Alvar and Mirek can be ditched, along with any outside maps. The Peridotia mines need to go, their time has passed I think.
Characters need to stay, it's what makes the old folks still want to play, even if they can't be challenged by most new areas, that's no different from the problem they have now. Over level 30 chars are boring at present if they don't have some DMed story anyway. This would remain the case.
How about someone make a new Lomatin, as a giant shanty town that remains after a tidal wave from the sinking of Peridotia washes most of Lomatin out to sea. Folks there can be refugees from all the deleted islands. Technically the new Lomatin would be miles inland from it's old location.
Have the planet shift on it's axis, flipping the weather patterns around.
This would explain any kind of changes you want with area's looking different.
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Post by Geo2 on Jan 9, 2009 0:24:55 GMT -5
I would also prefer to keep my current characters. I have been through two or three character wipes already on this server and it does get a bit tiresome, especially if you are not playing a hack-and-slash fighter type. A new world and even losing all existing equipment would be fine but some of us did put a whole lot of time into building interesting avatars that we are rather attached to.
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Post by Inviktus on Jan 9, 2009 1:02:39 GMT -5
I have been through two or three character wipes already on this server and it does get a bit tiresome Just FYI, I joined the server five years ago and there hasn't been a single wipe in all that time... |
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Post by Badwater on Jan 9, 2009 3:53:44 GMT -5
This is all partly why I'm bringing up the subject.
Originally, Talus 2 was to be in a different time and place on the planet, different characters, different criteria, different a lot of things. Even with your same character things will be different on Talus 2.
I'm not saying that I'm against having present high epic characters on Talus 2, or having the mods run concurrently; not at all. I was talking with Inviktus in-game tonight and I think there's things we can be doing that keep everyone relatively happy (keeping their chars and such) and still make Talus 2 a different gaming experience.
It's important to get this kind of feedback, because there's a number of different ways we can structure things, such as accommodating existing characters when Talus 2 is ready for that. It will be a departure in some ways from what Talus 2 was originally envisioned to be, and that's ok. The important thing, to me, is to be able to have some expansion and variety and keep Talus as a whole vibrant and alive.
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Post by Osa on Jan 9, 2009 13:03:40 GMT -5
I am looking forward to the change. I only have 3 pc that I would not really want to get rid of as of yet.
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Post by Lassandra on Jan 9, 2009 22:25:24 GMT -5
I would be interested in a Talus 2 provided that there are some links to the old Talus. I too would enjoy playing my old characters on talus2 but i am curious would we be limiting them?
I do not think scraping the old talus is a good idea.
I would be interested in building for talus 2 (i have built some areas for my own use in NWN2 but they are dated)
I would like to see the old player base back but i am unsure if this will revive it. What will entice and tantalize in NWN2 that is not working in NWN1?
I miss Talus :/
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Post by slidermike on Jan 9, 2009 23:38:52 GMT -5
Hey Lass,
just to be clear were talking Talus 2 not NwN 2.
The game is still NwN 1
NwN 2 isnt a good multiplayer platform unfortunately.
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Post by Geo2 on Jan 10, 2009 0:06:04 GMT -5
Just FYI, I joined the server five years ago and there hasn't been a single wipe in all that time... I've been playing here since 2001 or 2002 and I have spent a long time building my favorite character. Like I said, there have been two or three character wipes already. You can look back at the old messages on this board if you don't believe me. |
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Post by Geo2 on Jan 10, 2009 0:13:01 GMT -5
Actually there is only one character that I would really like to bring over to Talus 2 and I would not even complain if all his equipment was removed.
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Post by joe on Jan 10, 2009 1:51:18 GMT -5
It would not kill me to start over but I would rather keep the 4 listed below
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