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Post by Edohvi on Jan 25, 2012 15:39:55 GMT -5
Heheh...bored are ya?
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Post by Osa on Feb 7, 2012 9:43:07 GMT -5
Yeah keeps me off facebook lol
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HC Sayuri
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Post by HC Sayuri on Sept 17, 2012 8:13:19 GMT -5
Just as a logical flow thought, with the addition of the 2nd level areas at the Peri waterfall, might those goblin areas ultimately tie in to the Goblin Warrens out in Volcano Hills?
Kind of an alternate way to get to that area, while facing ever increasing difficulty of Goblins?
Being a volcano island with lots of lava tubes everywhere, it would seem reasonable, and would create a new natural progression cave circuit for the lvl 5-15 ish segment.
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Post by Edohvi on Sept 17, 2012 10:13:33 GMT -5
Trying to work me to death?!? heheh
Sounds good though =)
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Post by slidermike on Sept 18, 2012 9:18:24 GMT -5
HC Sayuri, I agree with your logic pertaining to the goblin warrens of the volcano hills & the waterfall cave in town. The only thing that would really have to be worked out is some form of sliding/scaling transition so that a low level toon doesnt go 2 maps over and find themselves surrounded by the nastier goblins near the inner caves. I think that besides scaling the encounters, the builder should add interactive signs (where you put your mouse over it and words pop up warning charc below lvl x dont go forward). Sounds like a good idea to me. I know we have a DM right now who is itching to work on building more.
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Post by Osa on Sept 18, 2012 14:37:04 GMT -5
I guess going back to old system could be answer shame.. hours of building goes down the drain.. hope not to much changes as far as designs and ideas on things..l I know bw's schedule does not let him on as much as he really wants to.. he was getting ready to put Lom back to a simular way as before.. rp is something of an importance to us.. he built to stop powergaming. I guess as long as npc are not effected and bw dming can still happen when he is on and me being a welcome wagon not much we can do about changes I guess. I fully understand the fustrations of other builders when things change it can be rather hurtful and a slap in the face Just saying
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Post by slidermike on Sept 18, 2012 15:41:32 GMT -5
I guess going back to old system could be answer shame.. hours of building goes down the drain.. hope not to much changes as far as designs and ideas on things..l I know bw's schedule does not let him on as much as he really wants to.. he was getting ready to put Lom back to a simular way as before.. rp is something of an importance to us.. he built to stop powergaming. I guess as long as npc are not effected and bw dming can still happen when he is on and me being a welcome wagon not much we can do about changes I guess. I fully understand the fustrations of other builders when things change it can be rather hurtful and a slap in the face Just saying As a power gamer myself I have never enjoyed nor understood why someone (anyone) would see another persons style of playing as a problem to you. As long as the other person is using proper server etiquet and not in some manner actually harming you what does it matter if I like power gaming; getting epic fast? I do not belittle or try to force hack-slash on RP'ers just because I prefer to hack-slash. Live and let live. If you want to sit around the table in Peri like Amy used to do for hours at a time and RP GREAT! have a wonderful time but I am going to get the best equipment gold can buy and try to kill as many monsters as I can spawn. thats how I enjoy my online gaming experience. So from a power gamers perspective when I hear "he built to stop powergaming" I have to wonder why you want to deny my right to enjoy the server how I like. As for hours of building down the drain; I suppose thats one perspective. You could also look at it as BW got a LOT of quality building experience on T1. Experience he was not afforded on any other mature server. T2 is completely his baby and the invaluable lessons of T1 can be put to great use. As for fully understanding the frustrations of a builder and it being a slap in the face... We can agree to disagree on those 2 topics.
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Post by HC Sayuri on Sept 18, 2012 18:50:44 GMT -5
I guess going back to old system could be answer shame.. hours of building goes down the drain.. hope not to much changes as far as designs and ideas on things..l I know bw's schedule does not let him on as much as he really wants to.. he was getting ready to put Lom back to a simular way as before.. rp is something of an importance to us.. he built to stop powergaming. I guess as long as npc are not effected and bw dming can still happen when he is on and me being a welcome wagon not much we can do about changes I guess. I fully understand the fustrations of other builders when things change it can be rather hurtful and a slap in the face Just saying Short of more active development on a system that was only partially implemented (CRAP/PAW) the rollback was really the only answer to make the server playable again. I think just about everyone who is active in T1 agrees on that point. I lament the loss of some of the changes to be sure, but If it means being able to play, I will live with the rollback. I think Slider said it best. A lot was probably learned by playing with the CRAP system, among those things is the pain that comes with implementing such a system in an already mature world, and its probably best left to implementation from the beginning. Now we can move forward without that restriction, and hopefully get some of the player base back, and continue to advance T1 in ways that that player base can enjoy.
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Post by HC Sayuri on Sept 18, 2012 19:02:59 GMT -5
I guess going back to old system could be answer shame.. hours of building goes down the drain.. hope not to much changes as far as designs and ideas on things..l I know bw's schedule does not let him on as much as he really wants to.. he was getting ready to put Lom back to a simular way as before.. rp is something of an importance to us.. he built to stop powergaming. I guess as long as npc are not effected and bw dming can still happen when he is on and me being a welcome wagon not much we can do about changes I guess. I fully understand the fustrations of other builders when things change it can be rather hurtful and a slap in the face Just saying As a power gamer myself I have never enjoyed nor understood why someone (anyone) would see another persons style of playing as a problem to you. As long as the other person is using proper server etiquet and not in some manner actually harming you what does it matter if I like power gaming; getting epic fast? I do not belittle or try to force hack-slash on RP'ers just because I prefer to hack-slash. Live and let live. If you want to sit around the table in Peri like Amy used to do for hours at a time and RP GREAT! have a wonderful time but I am going to get the best equipment gold can buy and try to kill as many monsters as I can spawn. thats how I enjoy my online gaming experience. So from a power gamers perspective when I hear "he built to stop powergaming" I have to wonder why you want to deny my right to enjoy the server how I like. As for hours of building down the drain; I suppose thats one perspective. You could also look at it as BW got a LOT of quality building experience on T1. Experience he was not afforded on any other mature server. T2 is completely his baby and the invaluable lessons of T1 can be put to great use. As for fully understanding the frustrations of a builder and it being a slap in the face... We can agree to disagree on those 2 topics. I have to agree with Slider. I like the entire range, and each style has its time and place. RP can be overdone at times, and some would be best served by trying to be less creative at times, and vv hack and slash. A good server that maintains its user base has a tendency to have a healthy mix of both. There is also the overall design of Talus to consider in that it was never designed from the beginning to be "slow advancing - low magic" making it that much harder to implement after the fact, requiring greater care and more time to do so properly, typically with the consent of the player base.
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Post by Osa on Sept 18, 2012 21:13:02 GMT -5
I guess going back to old system could be answer shame.. hours of building goes down the drain.. hope not to much changes as far as designs and ideas on things..l I know bw's schedule does not let him on as much as he really wants to.. he was getting ready to put Lom back to a simular way as before.. rp is something of an importance to us.. he built to stop powergaming. I guess as long as npc are not effected and bw dming can still happen when he is on and me being a welcome wagon not much we can do about changes I guess. I fully understand the fustrations of other builders when things change it can be rather hurtful and a slap in the face Just saying [/quote] As a power gamer myself I have never enjoyed nor understood why someone (anyone) would see another persons style of playing as a problem to you. As long as the other person is using proper server etiquet and not in some manner actually harming you what does it matter if I like power gaming; getting epic fast? I do not belittle or try to force hack-slash on RP'ers just because I prefer to hack-slash. Live and let live. If you want to sit around the table in Peri like Amy used to do for hours at a time and RP GREAT! have a wonderful time but I am going to get the best equipment gold can buy and try to kill as many monsters as I can spawn. thats how I enjoy my online gaming experience. ......................................................................................... that is great as long as one remembers to kill their spawns.. That was a thing when I would make a new pc I ran into alot. ............................................................................................. So from a power gamers perspective when I hear "he built to stop powergaming" I have to wonder why you want to deny my right to enjoy the server how I like. ............................................................................................... I did not mean for this to come out like an attack on you I am glad people can enjoy power leveling if that is what they like.. just fustrating that things was set up building made that are gone. shadow guild building gone whispering wind inn gone. lady of whispers temple gone. most of what the silver dragon estate was gone. small things but things that made the server enjoyable for me as a rper. ................................................................................................ As for hours of building down the drain; I suppose thats one perspective. You could also look at it as BW got a LOT of quality building experience on T1. Experience he was not afforded on any other mature server. T2 is completely his baby and the invaluable lessons of T1 can be put to great use. As for fully understanding the frustrations of a builder and it being a slap in the face... We can agree to disagree on those 2 topics.[/quote] ....................................................................................................... I will be checking in on talus a bit more just hope it works out. Sorry did not mean for this to become a personal issue SM. I am glad you are willing to try to keep Talus alive.
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Post by slidermike on Sept 19, 2012 7:51:59 GMT -5
No worries Myst. I did not take your "stop hack-slash" comment personally. Just expressing my view on the topic that was brought up. Glad to have you guys back online. RL is a bear for everyone so come join us on Talus or T2 whichever you prefer. The more the merrier. ....................................................................................................... I will be checking in on talus a bit more just hope it works out. Sorry did not mean for this to become a personal issue SM.
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Post by Osa on Sept 20, 2012 0:01:37 GMT -5
No worries Myst. I did not take your "stop hack-slash" comment personally. Just expressing my view on the topic that was brought up. Glad to have you guys back online. RL is a bear for everyone so come join us on Talus or T2 whichever you prefer. The more the merrier. ....................................................................................................... I will be checking in on talus a bit more just hope it works out. Sorry did not mean for this to become a personal issue SM. Got that right Sm.. Looking at re construction BW's business as he works FT in a sub division of Dept of defence.. I am working on drivers liscense in OR . then the high possiblity we might be raising my grandson.. At our age that is a tall order.. But that is what ya do as a parent / grandma Glad you did not take it personal sure was not my intentions.
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Post by slidermike on Sept 26, 2012 15:19:46 GMT -5
I am hoping to hear something from Edhovi before too long on the status of his cave complex. It will likely (at this early point in the design phase) be getting added to the cave complex underneath the waterfall in Peridotia.
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Post by Edohvi on Sept 27, 2012 9:22:09 GMT -5
Patience is a virtue, young grasshopper =) Classes are tight right now with learning to create 3d models and various other aspects of gaming ... no one still has not supplied a list with some details of what has been brainstormed for the connecting tunnels/caves. The list(s) will help in keeping things fresh and easier to stay focused =)
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Post by slidermike on Sept 27, 2012 13:02:48 GMT -5
I do not recall being asked to provide you a "list" so you could check down through it. Did you want me to build the cave dimensions for you too? I do recall a couple of people offering suggestions to you as to what could possibly be the RP value of the tunnels and or what creatures could be expected to populate said tunnels. Since you are the one who said (unless I misunderstood) that you were interested in building more tunnels it would stand to reason you would assemble your own list of things that tweaked your interests as a builder (while staying in line with Talus flow). Those things aside here is what I recall (write these down on a piece of paper so you have your list). #1 Branching tunnels to allow for multiple growth ideas. #2 One series of tunnels eventually leads to the goblin warrens of the rockie plains. #3 One tunnel with the RP backstory of a couple of looters (mage killed in battle once he betrayed the party) the survivors fled deeper into the tunnels with their loot and where never seen again. #4 One tunnel could lead to long forgotten burrial chambers (undead, bugs and scitter critters). #5 One tunnel could wind down to the drow or duegar (tho we probably have enough of those already IMO). #6 One tunnel system could wind its way under the ocean (peri is a port town) and have some submerged caves which opens up a whole host of water dwelling adventures. #7 A tunnel could wind its way over to where the goblins in the next map leading to Alvar have a system (the wand quest is in there). #8 Bandits love caves & there is the theory that the Black Heart Diamond was pilferd and hidden in such a place. Patience is a virtue, young grasshopper =) Classes are tight right now with learning to create 3d models and various other aspects of gaming ... no one still has not supplied a list with some details of what has been brainstormed for the connecting tunnels/caves. The list(s) will help in keeping things fresh and easier to stay focused =)
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